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Preuzmite Noreen gosch speaks i više Transkripti u PDF od Novinarstvo samo na Docsity! Noreen Gosch Speaks About - Jeff Gannon, Johnny Gosch And The Attempted Theft Of Her Book 'Why Johnny Can't Come Home' By Charlene Fassa 8-18-5 As most of you already know, Noreen Gosch is the mother of Johnny Gosch. When Johnny Gosch was 12 years of age and working as a paperboy for the Des Moines Register newspaper, he was kidnapped not far from his home. It was a quiet Sunday morning, around 6A.M. on September 5, 1982, when Johnny had left his home on foot to collect his assigned stack of newspapers to deliver around his quintessential "Leave It To Beaver" neighborhood. Just as he was about to pick up his bundle of newspapers, he was forcefully nabbed off the street, shoved into the back seat of a strange car, drugged, and permanently removed from his family. Johnny's childhood would be destroyed while his family was shattered and consigned to a life of endless grieving. Years later, on February 5, 1999, in a civil action in a U.S. District Court in Lincoln, Nebraska, Paul Bonacci painstakingly recounted the sordid, heart breaking details of Johnny Gosch's abduction and forced participation in an elite government sponsored pedophile sex slave ring, that dehumanized and controlled its young, hapless victims using techniques such as drugs, murder, satanic rituals, sexual abuse, and torture, resulting in MPD (multiple-personality disorder). The children were systemically programmed and "zombified" as part of the CIA's ongoing, under-the-radar MK-ULTRA (MK = mind control) mind control program. Bonacci's attorney was John DeCamp, who later authored a revealing and ground breaking book called The Franklin Cover-Up, which is a no-holds- barred expose of the pedophile ring that had abducted both Johnny Gosch and Paul Bonacci. Paul Bonacci knew what he was talking about regarding Johnny Gosch's kidnapping in 1982. Why? Because he was there! Bonacci's role within the pedophile ring was simultaneously that of a victim and a perpetrator. Actually, the then 16 year old Paul Bonacci was the person who had lured and then forced Johnny into the back of the car that screeched away on that fateful September morning. It was Bonacci who had helped drug Johnny, and then proceeded to initiate him into the group, his new "family", by sexually assaulting him. Bonacci himself had been abducted and pressed into service as an MK- ULTRA sex slave by Lawrence E. King, a high ranking Republican operative who managed Franklin Savings and Loan in Omaha, Nebraska as a front for an internationally organized pedophile ring. He ran this pedophile ring for the benefit of government, military, and big business elites, whose patronage included political blackmail, snuff films, kiddy pornography, prostitution, illegal arms and drug running, extortion, and money laundering. This was the same Larry King who allegedly ran the infamous midnight "call-boy" tours of the White House, along with Craig Spence. Amazingly, the White House pedophile story was headlined by the Washington Times, on June 29, 1989. This brings us full circle back to Noreen Gosch. She has been an indefatigable seeker of the truth in all things related to her son's kidnapping. It was Noreen's personally funded private detectives, not the police or any branch of law enforcement, who finally uncovered the culprits who were behind Johnny's kidnapping, including why they had chosen him, for what purpose, and what they had done to him as a result. Noreen has been instrumental in exposing organized pedophilia, its infrastructure and some of the personalities behind it, as well as helping to expose the pedophile network's interlocking relationships with elite hierarchies of political, military, and corporate power. For the past 23 years, Noreen has dedicated her life to educating parents, politicians, police, teachers, children and anyone who would listen to the sordid facts behind child abductions in America, including the hidden menace of organized pedophile rings. investigating child slavery and pedophile rings, asserts that the evidence is strong that Gannon is actually Johnny Gosch. "To me Gannon looks like Johnny," Rothstein opines-- "Everything just fits - the profile, the M.O., everything, " Then there's Ted Gunderson, a retired FBI agent who has worked on the Johnny Gosch case for over a decade. On Gunderson's website his bio reads, *Prior to retirement in 1979, Ted Gunderson had over 700 persons under his command and operated a $22 million annual budget." His complete resume is here: http://www.tedgunderson.com. Gunderson says he has a credible source that is certain Jeff Gannon is Johnny Gosch. "My source has told me in the past that he has maintained contact with Johnny Gosch," Gunderson reveals, "Let's just say he's in a position to know." "The kids are all in touch with each other. It's a bond they all share." Gunderson concludes with, "The only way I'd be 100 percent sure is if there was a DNA test or if he admitted it." Noreen confirms, "Ted sent me a videotape of his interview with his source and he {source} said Gannon is Gosch, and he said it without hesitation and without blinking an eye, and he said he's known it for months." Noreen "believes the man is credible." Gunderson makes it clear that Bonacci is not his informant, but is quick to add that Bonacci "informed him a while back that Gosch had changed his appearance." In fact, there's even corroboration from John DeCamp, who weighs in with, "Bonacci told me the same thing {that Jeff Gannon is Johnny Gosch}." And this bombshell from Noreen: "...the birthmark on Johnny's chest is very similar to a mark seen on Gannon's chest in at least one photo. Gannon has a spot on his right cheek in the same place as Johnny." The Rothstein, Gunderson, and Gosch (Noreen) quotes are from an article by Tim Schmitt, "Johnny Gosch, Jeff Gannon, Hunter Thompson and the Unraveling of a Troubling Tale" (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/goschgannohuntertrublingtale05apr05.shtml) The bottom line is this: There is enough "credible" evidence linking Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch for Noreen and her private investigators to insist on a DNA test. The "credible" evidence phase of the case has passed. It's now a case of obtaining "conclusive" evidence. To her credit, Noreen has ALWAYS maintained that she didn't KNOW beyond a shadow of doubt if Gannon was or wasn't her son, Johnny. But she'd like to know, and I believe she deserves to know, whichever way it turns out. PRESS RELEASE On July 23rd, 2005 Michael Corbin, talk show radio host of A Closer Look @ www.4acloserlook.com issued the following press release: "Jeff Gannon/James Dale Guckert is he also Johnny Gosch? Gannon/Guckert Offers to Take DNA Test to Prove he is not the missing paper boy Johnny Gosch who was snatched from the his paper route. "... Chameleon like Jeff Gannon also known as James Dale Guckert, the former gay model known as Bulldog, who obtained White House press credentials and held them for two years is the middle of yet another controversy. Could the mysterious Jeff Gannon who popped up from nowhere in 2003 with unfettered White House access be the missing paperboy Johnny Gosch?" (...) "This controversy led to the White House then and possibly now through this bizarre allegation that Jeff Gannon may be the kidnapped Johnny Gosch. Gannon's name has also come up in connection with the ongoing investigation in the Valerie Plame-Karl Rove CIA leak. Indeed Gannon's background is a mystery. While Gannon claims he has many witnesses as to his background, he does not seem to be able to produce a biological mother and father. Gannon has denied on the Denver based radio talk show, A Closer Look, hosted by Michael Corbin, that he is Johnny Gosch and has offered to Noreen Gosch, the mother of the missing boy, to take a DNA test." "Developments will follow." (...) For more background information and details about Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch visit the: Gannon/White House Sex Scandal archive at www.Rense.com: http://www.rense.com/Datapages/ganndat.htm INTERVIEW WITH NOREEN GOSCH CHARLENE: Isn't this the first time Jeff Gannon has publicly stated that he's not Johnny Gosch? Why now? NOREEN: I think Gannon needs to continue the publicity and is now coming forward on the DNA only too keep somewhat of a spotlight on himself. CHARLENE: Even though you've always publicly maintained that you didn't know if Jeff Gannon was Johnny Gosch, Gannon has threatened to sue you on three different occasions. Why? What types of contact have you had with Jeff Gannon? NOREEN: I have had only email communication with Gannon. He threatened to sue me because I have stated " I do not know if Gannon is or is not Johnny". He claims that is throwing doubt in the minds of people who would otherwise say he is not Johnny. I would think he would want the DNA test and if he is not Johnny ... then state it publicly and be done with it. CHARLENE: I understand there are some unique physical characteristics that Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch share. What are they? NOREEN: There are many facial features and the basic structure of his face which are similar to Johnny. The color of his eyes and reports of a birthmark on Gannon is the same as Johnny's. I have not seen the birthmark however. CHARLENE: For many internet researchers and bloggers, there appear to be numerous reasons to suspect that Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch are the same person. For starters, the name Jeff Gannon, seems be related to Johnny Gosh in a twisted sort of way. Would you explain the "name game" and how it relates to other "players" and Johnny? NOREEN: It appears in all of the alias names Gannon has used that he kept the same initials as Johnny... JDG. Gannon also chose the last name of the Des Moines Register Editor at the time Johnny was kidnapped. There just seems to be a replay constantly of Johnny's initials or clues to link Gannon to parts of Johnny's life. CHARLENE: Besides the physical attributes and JDG initials pattern, what other linkages/revelations between Gannon and Johnny have compelled you and your team to propose a DNA test be administered to Gannon in order to acheive closure on the Gannon/Gosch issue? NOREEN: There have been two informants who have stated Gannon and Johnny are one in the same person. For me, the only way that could possibly be resolved is a DNA test. That is the reason my investigative team have Gannon up to and including the current agreement? NOREEN: In March 2005, shortly after this story broke about Gannon. I wrote to him by email (3 times) to ask him to "quietly agree to a DNA test" to resolve this situation. Gannon did not answer my emails. We then sent a gentleman representing me to Gannon's home to talk with him. Gannon answered the door, when the man asked him about a DNA and told he was there on behalf of the "woman in Iowa". Gannon slammed the door on the man. We later were on a network TV show in which Gannon said he would take a DNA test. Only to later develop all kinds of stipulations: 1. That the results should be kept private (no problem there). 2. That I would be required to make a public statement saying he was not my son and sign documents agreeing not to ever mention his name in public. 3. That Gannon would publicly make some declarations of "spiritual support" for me. 4. Finally, that Gannon go forward to be a "national speaker for Missing Children." Some of these conditions were absurd. To date... Gannon agreed to do the DNA on Michael Corbin's show then has stalled once again. The DNA test is now in limbo for a while. CHARLENE: Did Gannon ever ask to be paid for taking a DNA test? NOREEN: Yes at one time he stated he wanted to be paid big bucks for his "DNA SAMPLE". I rejected that idea but offered to pay for the actual test. CHARLENE: As I recall, your longtime private investigator, Mr. Rothstein, who is a retired NYC Detective, is in charge of DNA negotiations/ logistics with Jeff Gannon. If Gannon actually follows through and submits to a DNA test, I'm sure Rothstein will ensure every step of the procedure is carefully monitored. Call me paranoid, but I would be suspicious of the results-- if there were any unsupervised gaps (breaks in the chain of evidence) between the blood being drawn and the DNA analysis. Even if the lab is reputable, elite sociopaths (people behind Gannon?) with unlimited power and money to burn always seem to find ways to derail these well intentioned, truth seeking investigations. I'm sure Mr. Rothstein is twenty steps ahead of me on this-- and has a plan in place to control as many variables as humanly possible so that Gannon's DNA test results will be bona fide. Can you comment? NOREEN: Jim Rothstein has arranged for a reliable lab to do the DNA test. We have advised Gannon of this... He has refused to give us the name of his attorney so we can communicate with him to make arrangements. CHARLENE: It seem obvious that Gannon is playing mind games with you regarding his willingness or lack there of to take a DNA test! And as you've astutely surmised, this on again off again DNA test scenario is free publicity for him. And I'm sure Gannon is more than capable of making good use of publicity, even if it's negative. On the other hand, if he is Johnny Gosch, taking a DNA test could undoubtedly put him in harms way. Then again, this DNA volleyball could be part of an overall cynical strategy by Gannon and his handlers to keep the "Gannon is Gosch" story alive, but essentially take the energy out of it. The story continues, it limps along, but in a vapid state of limbo. This way the character arc, the tension, the climax of the story can been shifted to fit an agenda. Maybe this game is a backdoor approach for Gannon to gain control of the "Is Gannon really Gosch" speculation frenzy. He knows the DNA ball will forever be in his court. If Gannon can keep the story focused at the level of a DNA test that's never resolved, and if he can keep the public's ATTENTION focused on forensics -- he's in control. And while he does his DNA dance, he can also threaten legal action against anyone who publicly wonders about the is "Gannon really Gosch" riddle -- it's a CHECKMATE of sorts. CHARLENE: A local media outlet in your region about a month ago ran a piece on their internet site announcing that there had been a significant "breakthrough" in the Johnny Gosch case. I think they described it as: "Johnny Gosch case heating-up." Yet they never mentioned exactly what the breakthrough was! Or I just plain missed it. However, they did mention something about the CIA and their alleged involvement in organized pedophilia. What happened to the CIA agent who had contacted you in order to help you crack the Johnny Gosch case years ago, and who was instrumental in your testifying before a Congressional Committee? What was the "breakthrough" in Johnny's case? NOREEN: The CIA agent who has resurfaced recently has brought information to Jim Rothstein which is significant at this time. Jim shared a portion of it, which the Waterloo, Iowa TV station reported on. It was then circulated throughout the internet. He informed us that originally 1700 children were targeted for this project... they (pedophile ring) set about kidnapping children throughout the country over a period of years. The number of "usable children" they ended up with was approximately 1,000. I filed a FIOA request and received a reply saying "All records on Johnny's case with the CIA have vanished." CHARLENE: After all these years, a fearful eye-witness finally came forward and detailed what really had happened to Johnny Gosch on the day he was kidnapped. He illuminated a crucial, hidden aspect of Johnny's abduction. He knew Johnny wasn't a runaway, he had watched Johnny's abduction unfold from a window in the safety of his home. What's the significance of this new revelation after all these years? Could this new eye- witness report officially reopen the Johnny Gosch case? NOREEN: We learned 22 years later that the only eye-witness to the kidnapping was forced to change his story years ago by the police chief. He saw a man shoot Johnny with a stun gun, saw him fall, then be thrown into the back seat of a waiting car. The witness instead stated he only heard the slamming of a car door. By the changing of the story 22 years later, it allowed the Police chief, Orval Cooney deniability and then call Johnny a "runaway child" instead of "kidnapped child". We also later learned the same police chief had been attending the sex parties in Omaha Nebraska with the Franklin kids, so it is no mystery why he was trying to "bury the Johnny Gosch story/case". The police say the case remains open to this day...but when I approached them with this information... they say " we are not going to try and reinvent the wheel". A cute way of sidestepping the issue. We are discussing possibilities of legal recourse but have not made a decision as yet. CHARLENE: There's been some disturbing incidents and strange, synchronistic events involving you and others, who were or are connected to the Johnny Gosch case. Recently, there was your yearly Johnny Gosch "update" interview with a local radio host, a seasoned, nine year veteran, who was subsequently fired. Not long after the update interview, a strange doll was delivered to your door. And then, about two days later, you heard some distressing news on the radio about a man who had revealed to you important information about your local Police Chief and Johnny's kidnapping. Comments? NOREEN: Marty Stacey, an Omaha radio talk show host, did an interview with me and Jim Rothstein. During the interview, we shared the information in the question/answer above regarding the police chief being involved in this scandal. The following day Marty was called in by his boss and fired... the reason given was the "Gosch/Rothstein interview". The following morning someone placed an "anatomically correct, blow up, nude sex doll with dark hair and a hole blown in the head at the door of my home". No one saw it being placed there. The police were called and I made a police report on the situation. We consider this to be a "veiled" threat towards me regarding the information that I gave during the interview. CHARLENE: How many and what types of other threats and or harassment have you experienced prior to the doll incident? demand and supply and demand". We have many high level wealthy pedophiles. The only difference between a rich and poor pedophile is: The poor pedophile must kidnap his own victims...while the rich one can afford to have his victims brought to him." It sounds so simplistic but it is true. CHARLENE: Was it John DeCamp who had informed you that after Larry King was released from Federal Prison in 2001, he had a plum position waiting for him somewhere within the ranks of the Republican Party? Larry King had been famously characterized in the old days as: "the fastest rising black star in the Republican Party." Often overlooked is the fact that King was found guilty of financial crimes ONLY while he was head honcho at the Franklin Community Credit Union. It's common knowledge that the Credit Union collapsed due to massive financial irregularities, but it's uncommon knowledge that King was never charged, and should have been, for his after hours pedophile and money laundering activities while using the same credit union as a front. So it would be no surprise to me if King had quietly resumed his secret lifestyle as a pedophile kingpin, and is once again living a life of privilege and power behind the scenes in Washington D.C., hosting late night pedophile parties in some elegant mansion along Embassy Row, as he did before. And then there's this: According to the June 1989 "above the crease", SIZZLING front page article in the Washington Times, and later verified in court by Paul Bonacci, the White House has allegedly also hosted several of these "after hours" parties. I've read that King has had close ties with Boy's Town since 1979. I've heard through the grapevine that Larry King has recently met with Boys Town officials from Omaha with plans to help create another Boys Town on the outskirts of Washington, D.C.! And worse yet, the project has progressed to the point of acquiring the permits necessary to build the facility. Talk about an "Amber Alert"-- it takes my breath away! Would you please comment on this relationship between Larry King and Boys' Town, past and present? NOREEN: We did learn within the last year that there are plans to build another Boys Town outside of Washington DC, I can only speculate that King is involved. He did go to Washington very shortly after his release from prison in April 2001. Msgr. Hupp, former director of Boys Town, hired John DeCamp to represent him, as he wanted to "tell everything he knew about Boys Town, King and Franklin". Within a couple months Msgr. Hupp was dead. When I met with him in 2004, he told me he was "afraid they were going to kill him for what he knew". Now he too is gone. Hupp contacted DeCamp a few months before he died. DeCamp said he died under unusual circumstances... I do not know what they were. CHARLENE: In February of 1999 in Lincoln Nebraska, you were questioned by Plaintiff Paul Bonacci's attorney, John DeCamp, in the civil action Paul A. Bonacci vs Lawrence E. King, with Judge Warren K. Urbom presiding, and you revealed under oath the following : "We have investigated, we have talked to so far 35 victims of this said organization that took my son and is responsible for what happened to Paul, and they can verify everything that has happened. What this story involves is an elaborate function, I will say, that was an offshoot of a government program. The MK-Ultra program was developed in the 1950s by the CIA. It was used to help spy on other countries during the Cold War because they felt that the other countries were spying on us." (...) "... there was a man by the name of Michael Aquino. He was in the military. He had top Pentagon clearances. He was a pedophile. He was a Satanist. He's founded the Temple of Set. And he was a close friend of Anton LaVey. The two of them were very active in ritualistic sexual abuse. And they deferred funding from this government program to use [in] this experimentation on children. "...they deliberately split off the personalities of these children into multiples, so that when they're questioned or put under oath or questioned under lie detector, that unless the operator knows how to question a multiple-personality disorder, they turn up with no evidence. They used these kids to sexually compromise politicians or anyone else they wish to have control of. This sounds so far out and so bizarre I had trouble accepting it in the beginning myself until I was presented with the data. We have the proof. In black and white." Note: Noreen Gosch testimony culled from: Satanic subversion of the U.S. Military, by Jeffrey Steinberg: www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/satanic_subversion.htm Your testimony serves as an eloquent summary of the Johnny Gosch case and as a scathing indictment of government sponsored, pedophile operations. That's why I included it as part of this interview. My question, Noreen, is - how did Michael Aquino specifically fit into the Johnny Gosch kidnapping? NOREEN: It was reported to me and given in Federal Court, February 1999, by Paul Bonacci, that "Michael Aquino ... called the "Colonel" was in fact the man who came to Iowa, paid the kidnappers for taking Johnny, then took Johnny with him. This took place 14 days after the kidnapping. Bonacci stated this under oath in Federal Court. Judge Urbom ruled Bonacci was telling the truth. CHARLENE: In your opinion why did Judge Urbom find Paul Bonacci and the overall evidence John DeCamp presented to the court so compelling? NOREEN: It was very surprising to us that Judge Urbom would allow this process to take place, since he was the same Judge that stated he thought Bonacci was nuts, not credible and not telling the truth. He did an "about face" ... CHARLENE: Any clues, guesses as to why Judge Urbom changed his mind so abruptly? You certainly found Paul Bonacci credible. Why? NOREEN: I have no idea why Judge Urbom changed his mind, it still baffles all of us including John DeCamp. Paul Bonacci's information-- we have been able to research, verify and prove the things he told us. This was done by a private investigator that John De Camp hired years ago in 1989 through 2000. CHARLENE: Could you connect the dots between brain wave frequencies, codes, multi- personality disorder, and MK-ULTRA as it relates to organized pedophilia? NOREEN: The mind control works similar to hypnosis only to much deeper levels. They program at Alpha, Beta, Theta and beyond to Omega level of brain wave frequency the desired instructions for later use. During the training/programming there is a technique where by the victim ... is split and new personalities with identities are created for desired purposes. They can be activated by a "key word, song, verbal suggestion" the mind control victim will then go into what I would call an "automatic pilot" situation and act out exactly what has been programmed in the individual. CHARLENE: Was the program called Project Monarch? Didn't Bonacci's diary contain pages and pages of codes? NOREEN: Yes it was called Project Monarch and Bonacci had 4 or 5 diaries with coding in it, step by step instructions on constructing a bomb etc. And an account of all his abuses. CHARLENE: Paul Bonacci won the case. Judge Urbom ruled that Lawrence E. King was to pay Paul Bonacci one million dollars in damages. Although Mr. Bonacci has yet to collect a penny of this hard won judgment, Paul Bonacci's court victory, especially what he conveyed about his role in Johnny Gosch's abduction, has given your investigation into Johnny's disappearance and organized pedophilia more credibility. You've been in touch off and on with Paul Bonacci since 1999. He's told you things about Johnny's appearance, changes that Johnny has made to his person that are his ability to do research, extract information and cite sources from books in his personal library about MK-ULTRA? He surely is no expert on MK- ULTRA. Were these books out of print, extremely esoteric, or in some way not easily available to you other than through him? NOREEN: Zielinski said he had some more material on MK-ULTRA and thought it should be included in the book. He offered to do some research on MK-ULTRA. CHARLENE: How much material for your book on the subject of MK- ULTRA did he actually provide? NOREEN: He only provided a few paragraphs in a couple chapters. The info in those paragraphs were taken from other books written by other authors, and I listed credit to those authors for each entry in my book. CHARLENE: And now he claims, in his lawsuit against you, that he wrote the entire book for you and spent 12,000 hours on the project? How much research time did he actually spend on your book? NOREEN: His claims are absolutely absurd and a complete lie. I have many witnesses to my statements and proof the book is mine. It is a chronological account of my search for my son. It is my son, my story and my book. He only worked a short time on the research. I have no idea where he drummed this outrageous number of hours he claims to have spent on the project. CHARLENE: Can you explain the payment or other compensation arrangement you hammered out with Mr. Zielinski, including the remuneration he readily agreed to. Am I correct in assuming Zielinski refused to put the agreement in writing, although you had repeatedly requested a signed contract? NOREEN: When Zielinski wanted to be involved in some research. I asked him what he wanted for this. He said, "I only want my expenses covered while I am in Des Moines". He also stated this before 5 witnesses. He refused to sign any written agreement to this effect. I repeatedly asked him to sign an agreement so we would be clear on this issue. I should have thrown him out of my office right then. But I didn't know he had such sinister plan in the back of his mind. CHARLENE: Mr. Zielinski arrived to work with you at the end of May in 2000. Your book was finished and sent to the publisher in September of 2000. You, in fact, did the layout for your book by learning how to use the Pagemaker program on your own. Yet, Mr. Zielinski proclaims that he did it all, he wrote the entire book, he did the layout, and he originated the idea of doing a book on Johnny Gosch's kidnapping in the first place. Last but not least, he claims the book title was his idea, too. Please comment. NOREEN: Yes, he is now going around telling anyone who will listen that he did it all and the whole idea for the book was his. This again is another example of an absurd lie. The book was started in 1983... within a couple months after Johnny was kidnapped.... Decades before I ever heard of Zielinski. CHARLENE: Isn't it true, after Mr. Zielinski started working for you he tried several times to take over the ENTIRE book project. It got so bad that on one occasion you had to ask him to leave your home? You warned him that you wouldn't work with him any longer if he continued to disregard the fact that this was YOUR project and that it was YOUR book. Is that true? Then what happened? NOREEN: Yes, I did have to tell him to leave my home on several occasions. He would begin to "yell and scream that he wanted me to do something a certain way ... stating he was an expert because he authored books on the Amish". I reminded him that it was "my son, my story and my book and if he didn't settle down he had to get out of my home and the project". He also on occasion would want to "rub my back, rub my feet, saying I should let him do what he did best". That was the last straw... I told him to get out and stay out. There was no way I was going to put up with that type of behavior in my own home/office. CHARLENE: In October of 2000, you were invited to be a guest speaker at a National Private Investigators Conference, which, luckily for you, was to be held in your hometown of Des Moines, Iowa. Mr. Zielinski found out about the conference and wanted to attend as a guest, so you graciously arranged for him to attend. The Johnny Gosh Story was slated to be the primary focus of the conference, though not the only topic. NBC Dateline had agreed to film the conference, which would have provided free national publicity for your self-published book. The Johnny Gosh story would have finally received the National attention it deserved. This kind of prime time TV exposure had the potential to help countless other missing children and their hapless families across America. Knowledge is power. Your book is a powerful tool. So I'd say this was the chance of a lifetime. But something went terribly wrong. And that something was Mr. Zielinski. Please explain. NOREEN: Zielinski while sitting in the audience of this gathering of P.I's began shouting comments to the moderator and speakers on stage. He was told to keep quiet several times. He created a huge disturbance and it was unfortunately being filmed by NBC Dateline. After his asinine performance, Dateline informed me that they were pulling out of the project and they would not do my story and I lost any chance of National publicity for my book on TV CHARLENE: Mr. Zielinski knowingly or unknowingly sabotaged your golden opportunity with NBC Dateline. Yet even after that debacle, Mr. Zielinski unexpectedly paid you a visit and presented you with a legal document to sign--a demand letter. Wasn't he insisting that you owed him something like $18,000? Never mind the fact that you had already paid out- of-pocket for his living arrangements and food during the time he worked on your book-- per a prearranged agreement! Adding insult to injury, he proceeded to casually inform you he had a son, who will soon be graduating from law school. And then he tells you, it was his son who had advised him that his legal rights had been violated by you. Zielinski continued to intimidate you into signing his spurious document, while you firmly stood your ground and politely refused. I understand he also asked for copies of your book (to resell) and you graciously said okay? Didn't your husband box about a $1000 worth (retail) of books for Mr. Zielinski that night, which he accepted? Please elaborate. NOREEN: Zielinski's expenses were paid by me during the few months he was in Des Moines, I worked nights after I worked on the book all day in order to pay his expenses, plus my own bills. Zielinski has lied about every aspect of his involvement on this project. He has in the past done this very thing to another individual, John Swanson, a film/video maker. They worked together on a video of Amish nature. Mr. Swanson was bilked for thousands of dollars by Zielinski. Mr. Swanson has given us a full accounting of what took place. Zielinski has made a life practice of living off of other people. He has not held a job in 30 years... claims he is a full time author, and it is beneath him to hold a job. He also informed me he is invisible in this country concerning the IRS and Social Security Administration. He has not filed or paid into SS in 30 years. I feel that now he is 62 years of age, he intended to make me and the Johnny Gosch Foundation his "401 K plan". CHARLENE: That's the last you had heard from Mr. Zielinski, until out of the blue in December 2004 you got a call from your attorney saying Mr. Zielinski is suing you and we (you and your attorney) only have four days to respond. Wisely, you requested that your attorney immediately ask for an extension, as a four day time frame was out of the question. You knew it would have been impossible to contact your witnesses, let alone prepare a defense on such short notice. I understand your attorney told you he didn't believe you'd get an extension and didn't want to ask for one. It was only due to your insistence that your attorney reluctantly acquiesced and finally got the extension. What were the key issues behind Zielinski's lawsuit? How NOREEN: Johnny asked me to get his story out. Soon after he left that night, I decided to begin to put all of my journals, notes and already written chapters into book form. The time had come to tell Johnny's story. Johnny was here in 1997, I began within a few weeks of his visit.... Zielinski didn't contact me until Nov. 1999 CHARLENE: My sense is that you will NEVER give up your remaining book inventory or your reprint rights to "Why Johnny Can't Come Home." However, if it's true that there is a third party behind Zielinski and his transparent legal maneuver to swindle you out of your book rights, and ultimately to suppress the Johnny Gosch story once and for all--if that's the case, I'm sure these folks have a huge war chest that could sustain a long, drawn out legal battle. Unfortunately, more often than not, the one with the most gold most often wins in our plutocratic legal system. This institutionalized legal strategy of wearing out an opponent through financial attrition has little to do with justice or truth. Add to this the fact that ANYONE with BUCKS can sue anyone else for just about any reason, real or imagined. And-- if an unscrupulous party with a large, legal war chest brings a disingenuous legal action against a less financially endowed party, the wealthy party will usually prevail, because the honest party doesn't have the funds to defend themselves in our EXPENSIVE and cumbersome legal system. This worries me in your case. Have you considered setting up a legal fund, perhaps through your foundation, to help sustain you in what could be a classic David vs Goliath legal struggle. Also, any breaking news from the legal front? NOREEN: I am not quite sure how I am going to handle the financial situation. I will need the money to do so... in the past I have used most all of my personal income and revenue from the book to continue the work for children. I believe there will have to be some kind of "divine intervention" to make things right in this situation. I have worked too hard for nearly 23 years. CHARLENE: Enough is enough! Johnny, your beloved son was brutally taken from you at the tender age of 12 years, and now, quite possibly, the very same elite, pedophile cabal is trying to take away a huge part of your life story and Johnny's story, thereby censoring what really happened to him and why. It strikes me as yet another level of abduction-- a symbolic kidnapping of Johnny, a theft of memory, or more accurately an attempt to erase from the "public mind" any trace of Johnny Gosch. Talk about identity theft! NOREEN: Yes this is the worst kind of identity theft... I still can't believe sometimes that he was taken right out of his neighborhood and that all this has happened and now this law suit. I keep receiving strength to go on but even I have limits to what I can withstand. Unfortunately, so much of this a parent of a missing child must bear alone. CHARLENE: Are there any closing thoughts or comments you'd like to make? Is there anything new on the legal front? NOREEN: At this point I don't know what is going to transpire next. There are a number of things taking place right now and I am not able to comment on them just yet. It all involves information we are hoping to develop. CHARLENE: It's my hope that everyone who reads this interview will consider supporting you and your noble cause, as well as defray your looming legal expenses to keep the rights to your book, by visiting your website at: www.johnnygosch.com and buying YOUR book or donating (or both) to the Johnny Gosch Foundation. Disclaimer Email This Article MainPage http://www.rense.com This Site Served by TheHostPros